Kwa zaka zoposa makumi anayi, Anu Jalota yakhalabe imodzi mwamawu odziwika kwambiri ku India mu nyimbo zopembedzera, kulandira dzina la ‘Bhajan Samrat’ pomwe imakhudza mamiliyoni kudzera m’matembenuzidwe ake amoyo. Tsopano, pa Julayi 5, woyimba wodziwika akukonzekera umodzi mwamisonkhano yayikulu kwambiri yantchito yake pomwe akutsogolera nyimbo zopitilira 2,70,000 za Hanuman Chalisa ku Chinmaya Mission zikondwerero za mbiri yakale ku South Africa za Man to Hanuman ku Durban, kukondwerera zaka 75 za Chinmaya Movement motsogozedwa ndi Swami Abhedana. Kulowa naye pa siteji kudzakhala wophunzira wake, woyimba komanso wosewera Anuja Sahai, zomwe zimapangitsa kuti mwambowu ukhale wapadera kwambiri kwa wojambula wakale wakale.Pokambirana mwapadera ndi ETimes, Anup Jalota akufotokoza za kufunika kwauzimu kwa mwambowu, chifukwa chake sanatsatire njira zodziwika bwino za Salman, zokakamiza za kutchuka kwanthawi yomweyo, zomwe AR Rahman adanena pazochitika zapagulu mumakampani opanga mafilimu, ndi zomwe zimamupangitsa kukhala wokhazikika pazaka makumi ambiri mu nyimbo. Anuja Sahai, pakadali pano, amagawana zomwe waphunzira kuchokera kwa mphunzitsi wake kupitilira nyimbo komanso chifukwa chake kuchita naye limodzi pamaso pa odzipereka masauzande ambiri ndidalitso lalikulu kwambiri pamoyo wake.
Mwaimba nyimbo za Hanuman Chalisa kambirimbiri padziko lonse lapansi, koma kutsogoza nyimbo zokwana 2,70,000 ku Durban sikunachitikepo. Kupatula manambala, mukuyembekeza kuti odzipereka komanso otenga nawo mbali akumana ndi chiyani mu uzimu ndi m’maganizo kudzera mumsonkhanowu?
Anu Jalota: Ziwerengerozi ndi mbiri yakale, koma kwa ine zimangosonyeza kudzipereka komwe kwasonkhanitsa anthu. Msonkhano uwu, wokonzedwa ndi Chinmaya Mission South Africa motsogozedwa ndi masomphenya a Swami Abhedananda, monga gawo la zikondwerero zapadziko lonse zokumbukira zaka 75 za Chinmaya Movement, ndi zambiri kuposa kupanga mbiri. Ndi za kukondwerera cholowa cha kudzutsidwa kwauzimu, kutumikira mopanda dyera ndi umodzi zomwe zalimbikitsa mamiliyoni ambiri padziko lonse lapansi. Ndimachita chidwi kwambiri ndi masomphenya a Swami Abhedanandaji obweretsa gulu lachi Hindu pamodzi kupyola chilankhulo, dera komanso mbiri kudzera mu mphamvu yosatha ya Hanuman Chalisa.Ndine wokondwa kwambiri kuti wophunzira wanga, woyimba komanso wochita sewero Anuja Sahai, agwirizana nane kutsogolera nyimbo zopemphera pa msonkhano wa mbiri yakalewu. Kumuwona akusintha ngati wojambula kwakhala kokhutiritsa kwambiri, ndipo ndine wonyadira kumuwona akupita patsogolo kudzipereka, kudzilanga komanso kuwona mtima kudzera mu nyimbo. Kugawana siteji ndi wophunzira paphwando lauzimu lofunika kwambiri nthawi zonse ndizochitika zokhutiritsa kwambiri kwa mphunzitsi.Pomwe odzipereka opitilira 10,000 amasonkhana pamisonkhano yayikulu kwambiri padziko lonse lapansi ya Hanuman Chalisa, ndikupanga nyimbo zokwana 2,70,000 ndi liwu limodzi, chiyembekezo changa ndichakuti aliyense akhale ndi mtendere wamumtima, chikhulupiriro chatsopano komanso mphamvu zomwe zimabwera chifukwa cha pemphero lapamodzi. Anthu masauzande akamapemphera ndi cholinga chimodzi, mphamvu ya uzimuyi imakhala ndi mphamvu yokweza osati anthu okha komanso madera onse.
Achinyamata ambiri masiku ano akufunafuna tanthauzo, kulumikizana komanso mtendere wamumtima. Kudzera munjira ngati imeneyi, ndi uthenga wanji womwe mungakonde kupereka kwa achinyamata okhuza moyo wa uzimu ndi kutenga nawo mbali pagulu?
Anu Jalota: Uzimu sukhudza msinkhu; ndi za kuzindikira. Achinyamata amakono ali ndi luso komanso ofunitsitsa kutchuka, koma amakhalanso pansi pa chitsenderezo chachikulu. Nyimbo, pemphero ndi anthu ammudzi ali ndi mphamvu yopereka malire ndi kumveka bwino. Ndingalimbikitse achinyamata kutenga nawo mbali osati chifukwa wina wawauza kutero, koma chifukwa amapeza chisangalalo chokhala nawo pachinthu chomwe chimakweza aliyense. Utumiki, kudzipereka ndi mgwirizano zimatipangitsa kukhala anthu amphamvu, ndipo misonkhano ngati iyi imatsimikizira kuti Sanatana Dharma ikupitiriza kugwirizanitsa mibadwo padziko lonse lapansi.
Nyimbo zanu zabweretsa mtendere ndi chitonthozo kwa mamiliyoni a omvera. Koma wojambula aliyense amadutsa mu magawo a kudzikayikira, kukhumudwa ndi kusungulumwa. Tiuzeni za nthawi imodzi yovuta kwambiri yomwe inakupatsani mphamvu.
Anu Jalota: Wojambula aliyense amakumana ndi nthawi yomwe zinthu sizikuyenda molingana ndi dongosolo. Pakhala pali nthawi pamene mwayi unali wosatsimikizika ndipo tsogolo linkawoneka losadziwika bwino. M’zigawo zoterozo, nthaŵi zonse ndinkatembenukira ku nyimbo ndi kudzipereka. Kuimba kunakhala kusinkhasinkha kwanga ndi magwero anga a mphamvu. Chikhulupiriro chimakuphunzitsani kuleza mtima, ndipo kuleza mtima kumakupatsani mphotho. Nthaŵi zovuta zimenezo zinandipangitsa kuyamikira madalitso onse amene ndinabwera pambuyo pake.
Omvera nthawi zambiri amayembekezera oimba auzimu kukhala pafupifupi moyo ngati woyera mtima. Kodi munayamba mwalemedwapo ndi ziyembekezo zomwe mwina zinali zopanda chilungamo chifukwa, kumapeto kwa tsiku, ojambula ndi anthu?
Anu Jalota: Anthu mwachibadwa amagwirizanitsa nyimbo zopemphera ndi mfundo zina, ndipo ndimalemekeza zimenezo. Koma ojambula ndi anthu omwe ali ndi malingaliro, zolimbana ndi zopanda ungwiro. Chinthu chofunika kwambiri ndi kukhala owona mtima pa zolinga zanu ndi ntchito yanu. Sindinayesepo kusonyeza ungwiro; Ndangoyesera kukhalabe woona mtima mu nyimbo zanga ndi kudzipereka kwanga.
Mwakhala ndi mwayi wowonera Anup Jalota ji osati ngati wosewera koma ngati munthu komanso mlangizi. Kodi mwaphunzirapo chiyani kwa iye pa nkhani ya utsogoleri, kudzichepetsa komanso kugwiritsa ntchito nyimbo ngati mphamvu yobweretsa anthu pamodzi?
Anuja Sahai: Monga wophunzira wa Anup ji, komanso ngati woyimba komanso wochita zisudzo, ndimaona kuti ndi limodzi mwamadalitso aakulu kwambiri pa moyo wanga kuphunzira kuchokera kwa munthu amene walimbikitsa mibadwo kudzera mu nyimbo ndi kudzipereka kwake. Tsopano ndili ndi mwayi woimba naye limodzi pa chikondwerero cha mbiri yakale cha Chinmaya Mission ku South Africa cha Man to Hanuman ku Durban motsogozedwa ndi Swami Abhedananda, kukumbukira zaka 75 za Chinmaya Movement.Kukhala wophunzira wake kwandiphunzitsa kuti utsogoleri weniweni umachokera ku kudzichepetsa, kukoma mtima ndi kutumikira. Mosasamala kanthu za msinkhu wake wodziŵika bwino, amachitira aliyense mwachikondi ndi mwaulemu, ndipo amatsogolera mwakachetechete ndi chitsanzo. Wandiwonetsa kuti nyimbo ndizoposa zosangalatsa – ndi njira yamphamvu yochiritsa, kulimbikitsa ndi kugwirizanitsa anthu m’zinenero, zikhalidwe ndi mibadwo.Kuyimba pamaso pa zikwizikwi za odzipereka limodzi ndi mphunzitsi wanga pamisonkhano yofunika kwambiri yauzimu yotero ndi ulemu komanso udindo. Ndi chikumbutso chakuti kudzipereka kosonyezedwa kupyolera m’nyimbo kuli ndi mphamvu yodutsa malire ndi kukhudza mtima uliwonse.
Monga munthu wogwira ntchito limodzi ndi Anup Jalota, ndi khalidwe liti la iye lomwe lakukhudzani kwambiri kuposa momwe anthu amawonera pa siteji?
Anuja Sahai: Mosakayikira, ndiko kudzichepetsa kwake. Ngakhale kuti ndi m’modzi mwa anthu olemekezeka komanso otchuka kwambiri ku India, samatengera chikhalidwe chimenecho m’chipinda. Amamvetsera, amalimbikitsa, amayamikira ndipo amapangitsa aliyense womuzungulira kumva kuti ndi wofunika.Monga wophunzira wake, ndaona osati luso lake loimba komanso kuwolowa manja kwake monga mphunzitsi. Nthawi zonse amakhala wokonzeka kuwongolera, kulimbikitsa ndi kukulimbikitsani popanda kukupangitsani mantha. Umenewo ndi khalidwe losowa.Dziko lapansi limamudziwa kuti ndi Bhajan Samrat, koma ife amene timamudziwa timadziwa munthu wachifundo, wokhazikika komanso wopanda dyera. Pamene tikukonzekera kukagawana nawo siteji ku Durban pamaso pa zikwi za odzipereka, ndikumva woyamikira osati kungoimba naye limodzi komanso kupitiriza kuphunzira kwa iye. Kwa ine, limenelo ndilo dalitso lalikulu koposa.
Mwaona India akusintha—kuchokera pa wailesi kupita ku makaseti, ma CD, wailesi yakanema, YouTube ndipo tsopano malo ochezera a pa Intaneti. Ndi nthawi iti yomwe mukuganiza kuti nyimbo ndi yofunika kwambiri, ndipo ndi nthawi iti yomwe imakonda kwambiri kuwoneka?
Anu Jalota: Nyengo iliyonse yathandizira nyimbo mwanjira yakeyake. M’mbuyomu, nyimbo zinkayenda pang’onopang’ono koma zinakhala ndi anthu kwa zaka zambiri chifukwa omvera amawononga nthawi kuti aziyamikira. Masiku ano, luso lamakono lapangitsa kuti nyimbo zizipezeka kwa aliyense, zomwe ziri zodabwitsa, koma kuwonekera nthawi zambiri kumabwera mofulumira kusiyana ndi kukhwima kwa luso. Ndikukhulupirira kuti kupambana kosatha kumakhalabe kwa iwo omwe akupitiliza kuphunzira ndikusintha, mosasamala kanthu za nsanja.
Pamene mukumana ndi oimba achichepere lerolino, nchiyani chimene chimakudetsani nkhaŵa kwambiri—kusoŵa kwawo kuleza mtima, chitsenderezo cha kutchuka kwanthaŵi yomweyo, kapena kuopa kuti mwina sangakhale ndi nthaŵi yokwanira ya kukula monga ojambula zithunzi?
Anu Jalota: Vuto lalikulu masiku ano ndi chikhumbo cha kupambana pompopompo. Talente imafunikira nthawi, mwambo komanso riyaaz yosasinthika. Malo ochezera a pa Intaneti angapangitse munthu kutchuka usiku wonse, koma kutchuka ndi moyo wautali ndi zinthu ziwiri zosiyana kwambiri. Nthawi zonse ndimauza oimba achichepere kuti ngati amayang’ana kwambiri kukhala akatswiri ojambula m’malo mokhala otchuka, kupambana kudzatsatira mwachibadwa. Nyimbo ndi ulendo wa moyo wonse, osati mpikisano.
Posachedwapa, mawu a AR Rahman okhudza zomwe zingatheke “pagulu” pamakampani opanga mafilimu adayambitsa mkangano waukulu. Kodi mumakhulupirira zimene ananena ndipo munakumanapo ndi zimenezi pa ntchito yanu kwa zaka zambiri?
Anu Jalota: Ndakhala ndikukhulupirira kuti nyimbo ndi za aliyense ndipo zimakwera pamwamba pa chipembedzo, magulu ndi zina zilizonse. Pa ntchito yanga yonse, ndakhala ndikugwira ntchito ndi oimba, olemba nyimbo ndi ojambula ochokera kumadera osiyanasiyana, ndipo ndakhala ndikuchitidwa mwachikondi ndi ulemu. Aliyense ali ndi zomwe akumana nazo, ndipo ndimalemekeza zomwe AR Rahman ji adagawana. Inemwini, komabe, ulendo wanga walimbitsa chikhulupiriro changa chakuti nyimbo zili ndi luso lapadera logwirizanitsa anthu kumene zinthu zina zambiri zimawagawanitsa.
Kodi pakhala pali sewero lomwe silinayende bwino koma kenako linakhala kukumbukira koseketsa?
Anu Jalota: Zomwe zimachitika nthawi zonse zimakhala zosayembekezereka. Nthawi zina pamakhala zovuta zaukadaulo, zoyiwalika kapena zosokoneza mosayembekezereka. Panthawiyo, amavutika maganizo, koma pambuyo pake amasanduka nkhani zomwe zimapangitsa aliyense kumwetulira. Ndaphunzira kuti omvera samakumbukira ungwiro monga momwe amakumbukira kukhulupirika. Ngati mukhala chete, kumwetulira ndikumayimbabe, ngakhale mphindi yosayembekezereka ikhoza kukhala imodzi mwazinthu zosaiŵalika pamasewera.
Muli mwana, kodi munaganizapo kuti tsiku lina anthu adzakutchani ‘Bhajan Samrat’? Kodi makolo anu anali okhwimitsa zinthu pa maphunziro, kapena kodi analimbikitsa nyimbo kuyambira pachiyambi?
Anu Jalota: Ayi. Ndinkangofuna kuphunzira nyimbo moona mtima ndikupitirizabe kuchita bwino tsiku lililonse. Ndinali ndi mwayi wokulira m’banja limene anthu ankakonda kuimba komanso kuwalimbikitsa. Makolo anga ankaona kuti maphunziro ndi ofunika kwambiri, koma anazindikiranso kuti ndinkakonda kwambiri maphunziro anga ndipo anandipatsa ufulu wochita zimenezi. Chilichonse chimene ndapeza ndi chifukwa cha madalitso a makolo anga, aphunzitsi anga, omvera anga, ndipo koposa zonse, chisomo cha Mulungu.
Ngati wina amene sanamvepo nyimbo zanu akufunsani, ‘Kodi Anup Jalota ndi ndani kupitirira mitu yankhani komanso kupitirira mutu wa Bhajan Samrat?’ , mungafune yankho lanu likhale lotani?
Anu Jalota: Ndingonena kuti ndine wophunzira wanyimbo yemwe adadalitsidwa ndi mwayi wofalitsa kudzipereka, chiyembekezo ndi positivity kudzera mu kuimba kwanga. Mphotho ndi maudindo ndi odzichepetsa kwambiri, koma sizomwe ndimadziwira. Chisangalalo changa chachikulu chimabwera chifukwa chodziwa kuti nyimbo zanga zabweretsa mtendere pamtima kapena mphamvu ya munthu pa nthawi yovuta. Kaya ndikuyimba pamaso pa anthu ochepa kapena kutsogolera zikwi za anthu odzipereka pa Chinmaya Mission chikondwerero cha mbiri yakale ku South Africa cha Man to Hanuman ku Durban, cholinga changa sichinasinthe—kulumikiza anthu ndi chikhulupiriro, nyimbo komanso ndi iwo eni. Ngati anthu amandikumbukira monga woimba wowona mtima, munthu wodzichepetsa komanso munthu amene nyimbo zake zinkawakhudza mtima, sindikanapemphanso china chilichonse.
